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  • From: a.tiwari at auckland.ac.nz (Abhishek Tiwari)
  • Subject: [cellml-discussion] cellml-discussion Digest, Vol 51, Issue 14
  • Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:15:44 +1300

Hi all,
Please find the PDF attachment on tracker for the same topic
https://tracker.physiomeproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1464
else, I am attaching the PDF document again
regards
Abhishek
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> 1. Re: [Fwd: Visual model design and editing capabilities for
> CellML] (Michael Cooling)
> 2. Re: [Fwd: Visual model design and editing capabilities for
> CellML] (James Lawson)
> 3. Re: [Fwd: Visual model design and editing capabilities for
> CellML] (Sarala Dissanayake)
> 4. Re: [Fwd: Visual model design and editing capabilities for
> CellML] (James Lawson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:50:18 +1300
> From: Michael Cooling <m.cooling at auckland.ac.nz>
> Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] [Fwd: Visual model design and
> editing
> capabilities for CellML]
> To: cellml-discussion at cellml.org
> Message-ID:
> <20081030145018.uso4h1diqsgk0k8o at webmail.bioeng.auckland.ac.nz>
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> ooo
>
> something close to my heart
>
> but unfortunately Abhishek I can't seem to open your document...hope
> it's not my machine...?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Cooling, PhD
> Research Fellow
> Auckland Bioengineering Institute
> New Zealand
> http://www.bioeng.auckland.ac.nz/people/mcoo001
>
>
>
> Quoting Andrew Miller <ak.miller at auckland.ac.nz>:
>
>
>> Forwarding to cellml-discussion as this is the most appropriate mailing
>> list.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Visual model design and editing capabilities for CellML
>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:03:14 +1300
>> From: Abhishek Tiwari <a.tiwari at auckland.ac.nz>
>> To: team at cellml.org, Andrew Miller <ak.miller at auckland.ac.nz>, David
>> Nickerson <david.nickerson at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Here I am attaching a proposal document "Visual model design and
>> editing capabilities for CellML", which I created long back and only
>> few of you have accessed the document. The document is more like a
>> conceptual sketch of how we can make CellML tools more user friendly
>> and versatile. I don't claim that this will be very useful for CellML
>> team especially when document is incomplete, but it can convey the
>> concepts and requirements. In recent there have been a lot of
>> discussion about metadata specification roadmap and I thought this
>> would be appropriate time to get feedback from CellML team and other
>> users, as concept describe in document may need some extended versions
>> of these specifications. To develop a visual model design and editing
>> capabilities for CellML, we need
>> 1) Defined set of symbols for network diagrams, like SBGN or Edinburgh
>> Pathway Notation but more optimized for CellML. (Do we need CellML
>> sepcific visual notations or we should fallow existing standards ? )
>> 2) Model visual representation metadata specification (updated
>> http://www.cellml.org/Members/jlaw060/cellml-metadata-roadmap/), it
>> will be closely related with visual notation system we select for
>> CellML tools
>> The terms, definition and other requirements mentioned in proposal are
>> not standard at all, and open for comments and feedbacks.
>>
>> thanks for valuable time and comments/suggestions.
>> Abhishek
>>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:58:30 +1300
> From: James Lawson <j.lawson at auckland.ac.nz>
> Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] [Fwd: Visual model design and
> editing
> capabilities for CellML]
> To: CellML Discussion List <cellml-discussion at cellml.org>
> Message-ID: <490914C6.4080801 at auckland.ac.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> Likewise. Would be very interested to read this though.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> Michael Cooling wrote:
>
>> ooo
>>
>> something close to my heart
>>
>> but unfortunately Abhishek I can't seem to open your document...hope
>> it's not my machine...?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike Cooling, PhD
>> Research Fellow
>> Auckland Bioengineering Institute
>> New Zealand
>> http://www.bioeng.auckland.ac.nz/people/mcoo001
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Andrew Miller <ak.miller at auckland.ac.nz>:
>>
>>
>>> Forwarding to cellml-discussion as this is the most appropriate
>>> mailing list.
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Visual model design and editing capabilities for CellML
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:03:14 +1300
>>> From: Abhishek Tiwari <a.tiwari at auckland.ac.nz>
>>> To: team at cellml.org, Andrew Miller <ak.miller at auckland.ac.nz>,
>>> David
>>> Nickerson <david.nickerson at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Here I am attaching a proposal document "Visual model design and
>>> editing capabilities for CellML", which I created long back and only
>>> few of you have accessed the document. The document is more like a
>>> conceptual sketch of how we can make CellML tools more user friendly
>>> and versatile. I don't claim that this will be very useful for CellML
>>> team especially when document is incomplete, but it can convey the
>>> concepts and requirements. In recent there have been a lot of
>>> discussion about metadata specification roadmap and I thought this
>>> would be appropriate time to get feedback from CellML team and other
>>> users, as concept describe in document may need some extended versions
>>> of these specifications. To develop a visual model design and editing
>>> capabilities for CellML, we need
>>> 1) Defined set of symbols for network diagrams, like SBGN or Edinburgh
>>> Pathway Notation but more optimized for CellML. (Do we need CellML
>>> sepcific visual notations or we should fallow existing standards ? )
>>> 2) Model visual representation metadata specification (updated
>>> http://www.cellml.org/Members/jlaw060/cellml-metadata-roadmap/), it
>>> will be closely related with visual notation system we select for
>>> CellML tools
>>> The terms, definition and other requirements mentioned in proposal are
>>> not standard at all, and open for comments and feedbacks.
>>>
>>> thanks for valuable time and comments/suggestions.
>>> Abhishek
>>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:03:49 +1300
> From: Sarala Dissanayake <sarala.dissanayake at auckland.ac.nz>
> Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] [Fwd: Visual model design and
> editing
> capabilities for CellML]
> To: cellml-discussion at cellml.org
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> Hi Abhishek,
>
> I can't seem to open the file either.
>
> However, I'm working on visualization of CellML models. I've already
> looked at using existing notations to visualize CellML models.
> Currently I have my own notation and I'm also looking at using SBGN.
> I've developed a work flow to annotate and visualise CellML models. So
> I'm not quite sure how this work is going to be different (ref last
> paragraph on the CellML metadata road map page).
>
> Please let me know if you want to know more about what I'm working on.
>
> Cheers,
> Sarala
>
> Quoting Andrew Miller <ak.miller at auckland.ac.nz>:
>
>
>> Forwarding to cellml-discussion as this is the most appropriate mailing
>> list.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Visual model design and editing capabilities for CellML
>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:03:14 +1300
>> From: Abhishek Tiwari <a.tiwari at auckland.ac.nz>
>> To: team at cellml.org, Andrew Miller <ak.miller at auckland.ac.nz>, David
>> Nickerson <david.nickerson at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Here I am attaching a proposal document "Visual model design and
>> editing capabilities for CellML", which I created long back and only
>> few of you have accessed the document. The document is more like a
>> conceptual sketch of how we can make CellML tools more user friendly
>> and versatile. I don't claim that this will be very useful for CellML
>> team especially when document is incomplete, but it can convey the
>> concepts and requirements. In recent there have been a lot of
>> discussion about metadata specification roadmap and I thought this
>> would be appropriate time to get feedback from CellML team and other
>> users, as concept describe in document may need some extended versions
>> of these specifications. To develop a visual model design and editing
>> capabilities for CellML, we need
>> 1) Defined set of symbols for network diagrams, like SBGN or Edinburgh
>> Pathway Notation but more optimized for CellML. (Do we need CellML
>> sepcific visual notations or we should fallow existing standards ? )
>> 2) Model visual representation metadata specification (updated
>> http://www.cellml.org/Members/jlaw060/cellml-metadata-roadmap/), it
>> will be closely related with visual notation system we select for
>> CellML tools
>> The terms, definition and other requirements mentioned in proposal are
>> not standard at all, and open for comments and feedbacks.
>>
>> thanks for valuable time and comments/suggestions.
>> Abhishek
>>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:05:24 +1300
> From: James Lawson <j.lawson at auckland.ac.nz>
> Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] [Fwd: Visual model design and editing
> capabilities for CellML]
> To: CellML Discussion List <cellml-discussion at cellml.org>
> Message-ID: <49092474.7080407 at auckland.ac.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> Attached is a version of the document that is readable
>
> Andrew Miller wrote:
>
>> Forwarding to cellml-discussion as this is the most appropriate
>> mailing list.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Visual model design and editing capabilities for CellML
>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:03:14 +1300
>> From: Abhishek Tiwari <a.tiwari at auckland.ac.nz>
>> To: team at cellml.org, Andrew Miller <ak.miller at auckland.ac.nz>,
>> David Nickerson <david.nickerson at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Here I am attaching a proposal document "Visual model design and
>> editing capabilities for CellML", which I created long back and only
>> few of you have accessed the document. The document is more like a
>> conceptual sketch of how we can make CellML tools more user friendly
>> and versatile. I don't claim that this will be very useful for CellML
>> team especially when document is incomplete, but it can convey the
>> concepts and requirements. In recent there have been a lot of
>> discussion about metadata specification roadmap and I thought this
>> would be appropriate time to get feedback from CellML team and other
>> users, as concept describe in document may need some extended versions
>> of these specifications. To develop a visual model design and editing
>> capabilities for CellML, we need
>> 1) Defined set of symbols for network diagrams, like SBGN or Edinburgh
>> Pathway Notation but more optimized for CellML. (Do we need CellML
>> sepcific visual notations or we should fallow existing standards ? )
>> 2) Model visual representation metadata specification (updated
>> http://www.cellml.org/Members/jlaw060/cellml-metadata-roadmap/), it
>> will be closely related with visual notation system we select for
>> CellML tools
>> The terms, definition and other requirements mentioned in proposal are
>> not standard at all, and open for comments and feedbacks.
>>
>> thanks for valuable time and comments/suggestions.
>> Abhishek
>>
>>
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