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[cellml-dev] [cellml-discussion] Announcement of PCEnv 0.6rc1 (release candidate for PCEnv 0.6)


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  • From: r.britten at auckland.ac.nz (Randall Britten)
  • Subject: [cellml-dev] [cellml-discussion] Announcement of PCEnv 0.6rc1 (release candidate for PCEnv 0.6)
  • Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:22:58 +1300

As I understand it, the MacOS version has already undergone fairly extensive
testing, which would mean that the 1 week is sufficient.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cellml-tools-developers-bounces at cellml.org [mailto:cellml-tools-
> developers-bounces at cellml.org] On Behalf Of Alan Garny
> Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:37 a.m.
> To: 'A list for the developers of CellML tools'
> Subject: Re: [cellml-dev] [cellml-discussion] Announcement of PCEnv
> 0.6rc1 (release candidate for PCEnv 0.6)
>
> > >> The first release candidate for PCEnv version 0.6 has been
> released.
> > >> This is the first version of PCEnv since 0.1 that can run on OS X;
> > >> there
> > >> are also a number of other improvements since PCEnv 0.5.
> > >> More information, and the released files themselves, are available
> > at
> > >> http://www.cellml.org/downloads/pcenv/releases/0.6rc1
> > >>
> > >> A release candidate will become a release one week from
> announcement
> > on
> > >> this list if there are no problems identified with it.
> > >
> > > Don't you think that ONE week (?!) might be a bit short? I mean
> that
> > one of
> > > the biggest changes in PCEnv is that it now works under OS X. So, I
> > would
> > > expect people wanting to test it under that operating system to
> need
> > a bit
> > > more than one week. Even for those who use Windows and/or Linux in
> > fact...
> > >
> > The one week period between the release of the release candidates and
> > the final release is a long-standing policy which has existed since
> the
> > PCEnv project was first created (and was carried over from the
> > mozCellML release policy).
>
> Is that supposed to make it right?
>
> > The purpose of the release candidate period is to give
> > people a chance to find any particularly critical bugs in the
> packaged
> > up version (for example, that it doesn't install / run at all for
> some
> > reason... although we perform our own functional tests before making
> a
> > release as well). It isn't intended to be a feedback period about
> > features or anything else like that - such feedback has to be made
> > before we start to stabilise for a release, or otherwise be
> considered
> > for the next release (and so doesn't have to be in the one week
> period).
>
> I don't think I mentioned feedback at any point. I think I am pretty
> clear
> what the release candidate is for. It nonetheless remains that someone
> should spend at least one full working day on a release candidate such
> as
> for PCEnv to find out whether it's working as expected. That would,
> however,
> be for people who have already used PCEnv before and know their way
> around.
> Now, if you think that you may have new users (incl. ones who use Mac
> OS X),
> I think it's pretty obvious that they will need to invest more than one
> day
> on PCEnv. You cannot, however, expect them to stop everything just so
> that
> they can check that PCEnv works fine for them. Some people may have
> deadlines they have to meet, may be travelling, may be on holiday, etc.
> If
> anything, I would allow for 2 weeks.
>
> > We always have the next release to fix bugs and support feature
> > requests
> > that come up, it is only the really critical problems that would
> block
> > the transition from release candidate to release (otherwise we would
> > never make a release), and so a week should be more than enough time
> > for
> > that.
>
> Yes, that's what we discussed long ago and something that I overall
> agree
> with (I would, indeed, also fix small bugs if possible).
>
> Alan
>
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