- From: Aroli Marcellinus <aroli.marcellinus AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell model
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:50:16 +0900
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Hi David,
That's the information that I really wanted in the first place. Thank you
for your answer. However, I have several questions after I read all of the
XML contents you gave:
1. (*S1S2-restitution.xml*) When is exactly S2Time and S2Interval used?
Since the main condition only using stimulusSwitch as the conditional
parameter.
2. (*switch from a periodic stimulus protocol to a single pulse*) I think I
got a little bit confused about this sentence. I've already checked the
SINGLE PULSE i_stim and it looks similar to the conditional statement of
i_stim value (for instance, *ten_Tusscher_panfilov_2006 *model). So, is
that really periodic to single?
3. Can I say S2 Interval as the BCL version of S2 protocol?
Maybe that's the only questions I want to know. Anyway, thanks for the
useful reference, David. Really appreciate your help.
Aroli Marcellinus
*Kumoh Institute of Technology**Computational Medicine Laboratory*
61 Daehak-ro (Sinpyeong-dong), Gumi, Gyeongbuk
+82 10 9724 3957
KTalk ID: vondarkness
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:08 AM, David Nickerson
<david.nickerson AT gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hi Aroli,
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You can see another example in here for a pure CellML S1S2 protocol
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definition: https://models.physiomeproject.org/w/andre/
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nickerson-2008/file/d6328d18c94e9dad70f4d0e4b250e8
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9429773b62/cellml/protocols;
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in particular https://models.physiomeproject.org/w/andre/
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nickerson-2008/rawfile/d6328d18c94e9dad70f4d0e4b250e8
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9429773b62/cellml/protocols/S1S2-restitution.xml
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defines the switch from a periodic stimulus protocol to a single pulse
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at the appropriate interval. Note these files won't simulate in
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OpenCOR on their own, but maybe give an idea how to implement your own
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S1S2 in CellML if you are after a pure CellML solution.
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The protocol language used in the WebLab is a lot more capable in
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terms of specifying arbitrary stimulus protocols, as well as being
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able to pull out restitution/APD properties - which can't be done in
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pure CellML.
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Cheers,
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Andre.
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On 12 April 2018 at 03:47, Cooper, Jonathan
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<j.p.cooper AT ucl.ac.uk>
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> Hi Aroli,
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> I’m not sure I quite understand your question. The plot you link shows
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both
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> the AP arising from the last S1 stimulus and the AP from the S2
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stimulus. In
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> the version of S1-S2 restitution there, we do many S1 paces to get the
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model
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> to quasi-steady-state. However, it’s possible to write a different
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version
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> of the protocol if you want it to do something different. There’s a link
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to
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> the protocol at the top of the results page, so you can see how it’s
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> implemented.
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> Best wishes,
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> Jonathan
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> From:
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> on behalf of Aroli
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> Marcellinus
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> <aroli.marcellinus AT gmail.com>
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> Date: Thursday, 12 April 2018 at 05:05
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> Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell
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model
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> Hi Cooper,
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> Thank you for the recommendation. I have looked at the simulator, but can
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> you explain to me about the simulator? Since I just only found S2 result,
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> but no S1. How can I simulate both S1 and S2 simulation on this platform?
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> Aroli Marcellinus
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> Kumoh Institute of Technology
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> Computational Medicine Laboratory
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> 61 Daehak-ro (Sinpyeong-dong), Gumi, Gyeongbuk
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> +82 10 9724 3957
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> KTalk ID: vondarkness
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> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Cooper, Jonathan
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> <j.p.cooper AT ucl.ac.uk>
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> wrote:
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> Hi Aroli,
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> You might also want to look at our Web Lab, which has a S1-S2 restitution
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> protocol - https://chaste.cs.ox.ac.uk/WebLab/db/protocols/7 - run on a
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range
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> of models, including post-processing of the raw results. We can give you
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an
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> account if you want to add your own CellML files to the collection.
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> Best wishes,
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> Jonathan
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> on behalf of Alan
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Garny
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> <a.garny AT auckland.ac.nz>
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> Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell
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model
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> Hi Aroli,
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> Yes, an S1S2 stimulus protocol can be applied to a CellML file. Just
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replace
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> the existing stimulus protocol (if any) in the CellML file with your S1S2
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> stimulus protocol.
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> Alan
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> From:
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> on behalf of Aroli
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> Marcellinus
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> <aroli.marcellinus AT gmail.com>
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> Subject: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell model
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> Hello everyone,
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> I just want to know if the S1S2 stimulus can be applied to CellML cell
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> models. Is there any reference or method to replace the common stimulus
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> protocol into S1S2 stimulus protocol?
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> Thank you
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> Aroli Marcellinus
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> Kumoh Institute of Technology
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> Computational Medicine Laboratory
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> 61 Daehak-ro (Sinpyeong-dong), Gumi, Gyeongbuk
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> +82 10 9724 3957
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> KTalk ID: vondarkness
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David Nickerson
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