- From: Aroli Marcellinus <aroli.marcellinus AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell model
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:29:23 +0900
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Ahh, it's alright, David. I just finished thinking about the questions and
I already understand what you want to say. Anyway, your reference helps me
so much to study S1S2. Thank you very much.
Aroli Marcellinus
*Kumoh Institute of Technology**Computational Medicine Laboratory*
61 Daehak-ro (Sinpyeong-dong), Gumi, Gyeongbuk
+82 10 9724 3957
KTalk ID: vondarkness
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Aroli Marcellinus <
aroli.marcellinus AT gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hi David,
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>
That's the information that I really wanted in the first place. Thank you
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for your answer. However, I have several questions after I read all of the
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XML contents you gave:
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1. (*S1S2-restitution.xml*) When is exactly S2Time and S2Interval used?
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Since the main condition only using stimulusSwitch as the conditional
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parameter.
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2. (*switch from a periodic stimulus protocol to a single pulse*) I think
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I got a little bit confused about this sentence. I've already checked the
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SINGLE PULSE i_stim and it looks similar to the conditional statement of
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i_stim value (for instance, *ten_Tusscher_panfilov_2006 *model). So, is
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that really periodic to single?
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3. Can I say S2 Interval as the BCL version of S2 protocol?
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Maybe that's the only questions I want to know. Anyway, thanks for the
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useful reference, David. Really appreciate your help.
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>
Aroli Marcellinus
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*Kumoh Institute of Technology**Computational Medicine Laboratory*
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61 Daehak-ro (Sinpyeong-dong), Gumi, Gyeongbuk
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+82 10 9724 3957
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KTalk ID: vondarkness
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:08 AM, David Nickerson <
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david.nickerson AT gmail.com>
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wrote:
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> Hi Aroli,
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> You can see another example in here for a pure CellML S1S2 protocol
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> definition: https://models.physiomeproject.org/w/andre/nickerson-2008/
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> file/d6328d18c94e9dad70f4d0e4b250e89429773b62/cellml/protocols;
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> in particular https://models.physiomeproject.org/w/andre/nickerson-2008/
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> rawfile/d6328d18c94e9dad70f4d0e4b250e89429773b62/cellml/
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> protocols/S1S2-restitution.xml
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> defines the switch from a periodic stimulus protocol to a single pulse
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> at the appropriate interval. Note these files won't simulate in
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> OpenCOR on their own, but maybe give an idea how to implement your own
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> S1S2 in CellML if you are after a pure CellML solution.
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> The protocol language used in the WebLab is a lot more capable in
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> terms of specifying arbitrary stimulus protocols, as well as being
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> able to pull out restitution/APD properties - which can't be done in
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> pure CellML.
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> Cheers,
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> Andre.
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> On 12 April 2018 at 03:47, Cooper, Jonathan
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> <j.p.cooper AT ucl.ac.uk>
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> wrote:
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> > Hi Aroli,
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> > I’m not sure I quite understand your question. The plot you link shows
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> both
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> > the AP arising from the last S1 stimulus and the AP from the S2
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> stimulus. In
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> > the version of S1-S2 restitution there, we do many S1 paces to get the
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> model
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> > to quasi-steady-state. However, it’s possible to write a different
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> version
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> > of the protocol if you want it to do something different. There’s a
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> link to
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> > the protocol at the top of the results page, so you can see how it’s
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> > implemented.
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> > Best wishes,
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> >
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> > Jonathan
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> >
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> > From:
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> > <cellml-discussion-request AT lists.cellml.org>
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> > on behalf of Aroli
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> > Marcellinus
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> > <aroli.marcellinus AT gmail.com>
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> > Reply-To:
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> > "cellml-discussion AT cellml.org"
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> >
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> > <cellml-discussion AT cellml.org>
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> > Date: Thursday, 12 April 2018 at 05:05
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> > To:
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> > "cellml-discussion AT cellml.org"
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> >
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> > <cellml-discussion AT cellml.org>
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> >
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> > Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell
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> model
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> > Hi Cooper,
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> >
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> > Thank you for the recommendation. I have looked at the simulator, but
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> can
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> > you explain to me about the simulator? Since I just only found S2
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> result,
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> > but no S1. How can I simulate both S1 and S2 simulation on this
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> platform?
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> >
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> > Aroli Marcellinus
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> > Kumoh Institute of Technology
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> > Computational Medicine Laboratory
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> > 61 Daehak-ro (Sinpyeong-dong), Gumi, Gyeongbuk
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> > +82 10 9724 3957
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> > KTalk ID: vondarkness
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Cooper, Jonathan
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> > <j.p.cooper AT ucl.ac.uk
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> >
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> > wrote:
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> >
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> > Hi Aroli,
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > You might also want to look at our Web Lab, which has a S1-S2
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> restitution
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> > protocol - https://chaste.cs.ox.ac.uk/WebLab/db/protocols/7 - run on a
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> range
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> > of models, including post-processing of the raw results. We can give
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> you an
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> > account if you want to add your own CellML files to the collection.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Best wishes,
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> >
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> > Jonathan
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > From:
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> > <cellml-discussion-request AT lists.cellml.org>
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> > on behalf of Alan
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> Garny
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> > <a.garny AT auckland.ac.nz>
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> > Reply-To:
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> > "cellml-discussion AT cellml.org"
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> >
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> > <cellml-discussion AT cellml.org>
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> > Date: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 at 02:15
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> > To: cellml-discussion Mailing List
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> > <cellml-discussion AT lists.cellml.org>
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> > Subject: Re: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell
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> model
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> > Hi Aroli,
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> > Yes, an S1S2 stimulus protocol can be applied to a CellML file. Just
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> replace
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> > the existing stimulus protocol (if any) in the CellML file with your
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> S1S2
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> > stimulus protocol.
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> > Alan
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> > From:
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> > <cellml-discussion-request AT lists.cellml.org>
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> > on behalf of Aroli
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> > Marcellinus
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> > <aroli.marcellinus AT gmail.com>
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> > Reply-To: cellml-discussion Mailing List
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> > <cellml-discussion AT lists.cellml.org>
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> > Date: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 at 1:03 PM
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> > To: cellml-discussion Mailing List
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> > <cellml-discussion AT lists.cellml.org>
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> > Subject: [cellml-discussion] S1S2 Stimulus Protocol in CellML cell model
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> > Hello everyone,
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> > I just want to know if the S1S2 stimulus can be applied to CellML cell
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> > models. Is there any reference or method to replace the common stimulus
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> > protocol into S1S2 stimulus protocol?
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> >
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> > Thank you
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> > Aroli Marcellinus
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> > Kumoh Institute of Technology
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> > Computational Medicine Laboratory
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> > 61 Daehak-ro (Sinpyeong-dong), Gumi, Gyeongbuk
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> > +82 10 9724 3957
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> > KTalk ID: vondarkness
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> >
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> >
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> --
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> David Nickerson
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> about.me/david.nickerson
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